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Quarta-Feira, 12 de Dezembro de 2007 - 17:35:07 WET
Pois Pois Colega Mourato-
há aqui apenas um ligeiro problema de lingua.
Quando o colega se refere a Disperção e Duto eu referia-me a Scatter e Ducting
Voce em Portugues e eu em Ingles mas estamos a falar da mesma coisa hi hi
Estas termos normalmente são mais conhecidas em Ingles do que na lingua de Camoes.
Mas EStamos de acordo :-)
From: ct1ffu hotmail.comTo: cluster radio-amador.netSubject: RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Calculador/Indicador de Propagação, para VHF e UHF.Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:28:18 +0000
Então se nunca leu, leia lá agora hi hi :
Tropospheric V/UHF DX Modes..
Line-of-Sight (GW)...is normal continuous reception where the receiving and transmitting antennas can see each other..taking into account the 4/3 Earth curvature of radio waves. Tropospheric Scatter (TrS)...is ever-present under normal conditions. That's the mode that produces the distant fluttery signals that randomly fade in and out. These are your most distant regular stations that barely make it in. Depending on your location and equipment..tropo scatter can extend to 300..500..or even 700 km. The theoretical maximum limit for most TV/radio DXers is 800 km (500 mi) (Some semi-professional setups can extend furthur). Scatter is caused by small particles/droplets in the air such as haze, dust, volcanic ash, clouds, etc. Tropospheric Enhancement (TrE)..(akaTropospheric Refraction) is common under normal conditions. On most clear nights with calm or light winds..the ground radiates and the air near the ground cools. Eventually an inversion is formed and signals begin to refract off the inversion. Stations that normally fade in and out via tropo scatter come in continuously..with increasing strength. Also..weaker tropo scatter stations that are normally not heard (because their signal strengths never cross the background noise threshold signal level) also begin to appear. When the sun comes up..the ground & air heats up..the inversion breaks down..and the enhancement disappears. The enhancement is subtle on some nights..and very obvious on other nights. Distances are no different than your tropo scatter catches..it's just that the signals are stronger. Tropo enhancement is greatly influenced by terrain..with valley and coastal paths favoured. ("Fog-prone" areas are also "DX-prone" areas!!). From a DXers point of view, multiple directions usually are enhanced at the same time. Tropospheric Ducting (TrD)..is an abnormal condition. An inversion has formed at a much higher level above the ground...the vast majority of duct-producing inversions lie between 450 and 1500 m (1500 to 5000 ft)..with a few between 1500 and 3000 m (5000 to 10,000 ft). These inversions are not formed due to nighttime radiation/cooling..but rather because of some other weather phenomenon (high pressure subsidence aloft, warm frontal boundary, cold frontal boundary, oceanic or lake inversion, Chinooks, etc.). Because of this..ducting can occur day or night (though it strengthens at night)..is not usually influenced by terrain (the exception being large mountain chains like the Rockies)..and from a DXers point of view is usually either uni- or bi-directional. In fact..typical ducts are sharply directional. Signals refract off of and also travel along the inversion..thus the analogy of a duct. Distances are theoretically unlimited. One large area can have multiple ducts going on simutaneously..but they are usually parallel paths. It is possible in a very strong high pressure system to have large areas of ducting creating multi-directional openings. These are the rare "blockbuster" openings that make DXers' mouths water. They are most common over the oceanic areas in the tropics and sub-tropics. Additional Characteristics of Ducting.. Ducting may or may not occur simutaneously with enhancement (caused by nighttime cooling). Often there is both a low-level radiational inversion caused by nighttime cooling (producing enhancement)...and a mid-level "system-produced" inversion above that (producing ducting). However..just as often there is only the higher duct-producing inversion..especially if the skies are cloudy or if it is windy. So..do not use your regular scatter/enhancement stations as propagation beacons for longer-distance DX acheived via ducting! Sometimes ducting can even display a "skip-like" character where distant stations on the same frequency and bearing can be received while closer-by stations are nowhere to be seen. Ducting is also very height selective..with maximum signal transmissions at and just below the altitude of the inversion. DXers normally receive ducting DX via ground-based inversions. Occasionally inversions can be based above ground, in which case a DXer beneath the duct could completely miss out on the DX opening. Meanwhile, DXers at a higher elevation could, at the same time, be in the midst of a strong opening. It is also possible that a DXer at too high an elevation (above the top of the duct) could also miss out. Ducting conditions usually vary over short time periods as opposed to enhancement which is more stable. Ducts located behind cold fronts ("post-frontal ducts") are notoriously unstable as paths can even be interrupted by things such as heavy rain showers associated with the cold front itself. Expect the unexpected from these types of ducts with sudden and rapid changes in signal strengths quite common (some post-frontal ducts last only 15 to 30 minutes). High-pressure and oceanic ducts are a bit more stable and can last for days..but again expect the unexpected as changes can occur quickly. Frequencies affected by ducting are determined by the vertical thickness of an inversion. Individual ducts will have a LUF (Lowest Usable Frequency) associated with them. Thin inversions (i.e.-thin ducts) will only propagate Microwaves. Thicker inversions will propagate UHF signals as well..while the thickest inversions will also propagate VHF signals. Unfortunately there is no reliable method known for forecasting inversion thicknesses. Also, in real-life tests, it has been found that reception at frequencies below the theoretical LUF is usually possible, although there is usually a sharp drop-off in signal strength at the LUF. See LUF page.
Special Cases (Exotic DX Modes).. Rain Scatter (RS)..is a rare mode that sometimes occurs on the higher UHF-TV channels. A band of very heavy rain (or rain and hail) at a distance can scatter or even reflect signals. The effect is the one used for microwave Weather Radars. Distances are typically around 160 km..though up to 650 km (400 mi) is theoretically possible. (Note that heavy snow is not an useful reflector). Ice Pellet Scatter (SS)..(called Sleet Scatter in the US)..is similar to Rain Scatter but is caused by bands of Ice Pellets in the wintertime. Aircraft Scatter (AS)..(aka Tropospheric Reflection) is simply reflection off of aircraft..although reflections off of flocks of birds are also possible. A rare form of reflection is "Chaf Scatter". Chaf is strips of metal foil sent out by the military during training exercises. Chaf helps to confuse enemy radars..but also helps to produce DX. Maximum distances for all reflection modes are again up to 800 km (500 mi). Lightning Scatter (LS)..is a mode that is sometimes discussed..but there is little documentation on it. The theory is that lightning strikes produce ionized trails. Reception is similar to other forms of scatter except that the DX is more burst-like similar to MS. LS is a mode that is very hard to distinguish and rarely reported.
Reflections off of hills and mountains..and Knife-Edge Diffraction are not considered true DX modes since they are omni-present..though they can help to extend DX via the other modes. So these are the conditions in the troposphere that allow reception of VHF and UHF signals beyond their normal range. Basically..these are DX modes that are affected by the weather. In the forecasts.....the reason that I stick with just Ducting is because it is a large-scale phenomena..can be forecasted in a reasonable amount of time..and produces the best tropo. Enhancement is forecastable..but it is so dependant on regional and local terrain and conditions that it would be a labour-intensive effort (not to mention a very lengthy one) to forecast for all of North America. The process that one would have to use to properly forecast Enhancement for a particular area is the same that a meteorologist would use to forecast overnight low tempertatures, chance of fog patches, etc.
Melhores 73's CT1FFU> From: joao.a.costa ctt.pt> To: cluster radio-amador.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:51:49 +0000> Subject: RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Calculador/Indicador de Propagação, para VHF e UHF.> > Caro Matias,> > Esta é totalmente nova para mim:> "O Modos de propagação via Troposfera em VHF é, por exemplo mais influenciado pela poluição e poeiras no ar do que pela temperatura ou humidade."> > Tudo o que lie até hoje, a "tropo" acenta em 3 factores importantes:> - Pressão Atmosférica.> - Temperatura.> - Humidade.> > agora " pela poluição e poeiras no ar " é que nunca tinha lido.> > João Costa> CT1FBF> > > > ________________________________> > From: cluster-bounces radio-amador.net [mailto:cluster-bounces radio-amador.net] On Behalf Of antonio matias> Sent: quarta-feira, 12 de Dezembro de 2007 14:51> To: Resumo Noticioso Electrónico ARLA> Subject: RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Calculador/Indicador de Propagação, para VHF e UHF.> > > Ora vamos lá então ver...> > Existem 13 tipos distintos de propagação em VHF !> > > Aurora> Aurora E> Back Scatter> EME> Esporádica E> FAI -field alinement irregularities> F2> Iono Scatter> Meteor Scatter> Reflexão -Satélite/avião> SSSP/WSSP -summer solistice short path propagation/ winter> TEP - trans-equatorial Path> Tropo> > > > naturalmente embora o possa fazer, não vou explicar agora as diferenças entre elas.> e entre estas 13 apenas o TROPO é influenciado pelo estado do tempo.> Mas por norma os dados que esses programas fornecem não indicam absulutamente nada em rigor para a previsão eficaz de propagação.> > Isto porque há outros factores a ter em conta e muito mais importantes.> O Modos de propagação via Troposfera em VHF é , por exemplo mais influenciado pela poluição e poeiras no ar do que pela temperatura ou humidade.> > e estes dados são dificeis de obter.> > no entanto o Tropo Ducting já depende sim das correntes do ar, camadas de ar com temperaturas e direcções diferentes em sobreposição.> > mas tambem aqui os dados não são facilmente equacionados> > Bom isto é materia para escrever um livro hi hi> Mas uma coisa é certa!> NÂO HÀ formulas para previsão de propagação rigorosas. apenas a experiencia de anos anteriores que pode garantir alguma ciclicidade para quem estiver atento...> > > > > > _______________________________________________> CLUSTER mailing list> CLUSTER radio-amador.net> /cluster/listinfo/cluster
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